Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
By Williams F1 Team
September 22 2009
Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: Williams F1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/09/2009 12:43
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Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: GroveF1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/09/2009 21:50
Q: There’s been a lot of speculation in the press about AT&T Williams’ engine supply for 2010. What can you tell us about it?
SM: It’s definitely going to be a 2.4-litre V8
I had to laugh at this part above - thought it was an absolute classic reply!
SM: It’s definitely going to be a 2.4-litre V8
I had to laugh at this part above - thought it was an absolute classic reply!
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: Umbrella_Girl (IP Logged)
Date: 23/09/2009 17:44
Quote:GroveF1
Q: There’s been a lot of speculation in the press about AT&T Williams’ engine supply for 2010. What can you tell us about it?
SM: It’s definitely going to be a 2.4-litre V8
I had to laugh at this part above - thought it was an absolute classic reply!
I've read that he has a very dry sense of humour, so I guess that sort of reply must be pretty typical!

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Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 23/09/2009 17:48
He also gave away the reason that we want to move away from Toyota. Fuel consumption.
Williams and proud of it.
Williams and proud of it.
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 23/09/2009 22:48
Renault deal feels imminent now.
let's see what develops from their intention to use KERS next year. Nice way to re-enter FOTA: "Thanks, we're glad to be back... oh, and by the way, we're using KERS." (shrugs shoulders)
let's see what develops from their intention to use KERS next year. Nice way to re-enter FOTA: "Thanks, we're glad to be back... oh, and by the way, we're using KERS." (shrugs shoulders)
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: K1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/09/2009 23:56
i think you are reading too much into this pj as his comments re fuel consumption are merely highlighting '10 refueling restrictions as an across the board problem to be solved.
i don't see how you can draw any conclusions specifically directed at the toyota engine.
i don't see how you can draw any conclusions specifically directed at the toyota engine.
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2009 03:01
Sam said that the engines were all pretty much of a muchness as far as power and weight were concerned. He said that fuel consumption does vary. There has to be a reason why we want to change engines and my bet is that it is fuel consumption with next years ban on refuelling, a thirsty engine will be a bigger disadvantage than it was this year.
Of course I have no proof that the Toyota engine is thirsty. However, over the time that we have been racing with it, this is an opinion that I have formed. When laps are predicted from declared fuel-loads we never seem to be able to extend the number of predicted laps in the way that we have almost become accustomed to from Ferrari, MB or Renault powered cars. If anything we pit a lap or two earlier. I have not noticed any variation from Toyota either. I find it difficult to believe that all four Toyota driver are particularly heavy footed. Proof will be provided next season when we see how much fuel the Toyota engine needs to get through a race.
Williams and proud of it.
Of course I have no proof that the Toyota engine is thirsty. However, over the time that we have been racing with it, this is an opinion that I have formed. When laps are predicted from declared fuel-loads we never seem to be able to extend the number of predicted laps in the way that we have almost become accustomed to from Ferrari, MB or Renault powered cars. If anything we pit a lap or two earlier. I have not noticed any variation from Toyota either. I find it difficult to believe that all four Toyota driver are particularly heavy footed. Proof will be provided next season when we see how much fuel the Toyota engine needs to get through a race.
Williams and proud of it.
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: K1 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2009 11:35
of course fuel consumption will vary for a multitude of reasons, from drivers, downforce levels, competetive strategies and many many other innumerable reasons.
i don't see anywhere in the Q&A where SM says that the toyota is 'thirsty'.
i don't see anywhere in the Q&A where SM says that the toyota is 'thirsty'.
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2009 11:49
True- but he has said that fuel efficiency will determine engine choice. Therefore he is implying that its the engine which can have a large bearing on fuel inefficiency.
Williams are keen to move away from Toyota despite having a contract in place. If it isnt because of fuel inefficency- an idea heavily hinted by SM, then what would you suggest is the reason?
It's also worth bearing in mind that SM is no DM- he does not dish out damning indictments lightly.
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Williams are keen to move away from Toyota despite having a contract in place. If it isnt because of fuel inefficency- an idea heavily hinted by SM, then what would you suggest is the reason?
It's also worth bearing in mind that SM is no DM- he does not dish out damning indictments lightly.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:09:24:11:51:17 by crusty_bread.
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: GPL (IP Logged)
Date: 24/09/2009 11:56
I agree with pgj
The Toyota engine has served us well, but with the new rule changes it is time to move on, and get the equipment we think we need to push for the top spots, that means drivers too.
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The Toyota engine has served us well, but with the new rule changes it is time to move on, and get the equipment we think we need to push for the top spots, that means drivers too.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:09:24:11:59:57 by gpl.
Re: Sam Michael: European Season Round-up
Posted by: K1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 04:02
there are most likely many reasons why williams desire to move away from the toyota engine, as i have previously stated.
i should think that the nakajima deal is but one of them and if they do remove him then they may need to ante up $$$ as a result. to suggest that fuel effiency is the prime reason lacks evidence.
if anyone has that evidence then i would like to see/read it. as for the comment re DM, well he was quite within his rights to say what he did as the engine reliability was and is a major factor as to why their push for the championships has now been thwarted badly.
maybe not too diplomatic but after such a sterling effort by the team, not to say the many millions spent as well why beat around the bush? say it like it is and don't @#$%& foot the issue.too many people in this world are too timid to really stand up and speak their mind for fear of being seen to be politically incorrect etc etc.
i should think that the nakajima deal is but one of them and if they do remove him then they may need to ante up $$$ as a result. to suggest that fuel effiency is the prime reason lacks evidence.
if anyone has that evidence then i would like to see/read it. as for the comment re DM, well he was quite within his rights to say what he did as the engine reliability was and is a major factor as to why their push for the championships has now been thwarted badly.
maybe not too diplomatic but after such a sterling effort by the team, not to say the many millions spent as well why beat around the bush? say it like it is and don't @#$%& foot the issue.too many people in this world are too timid to really stand up and speak their mind for fear of being seen to be politically incorrect etc etc.
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