Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Nico Rosberg
By Andrew Hooper
September 14 2008
It would be a disappointing 500th Grand Prix for the Williams team in the 2008 Italian Grand Prix. Nico was caught out by a drying track that forced an extra pit stop while Kazuki was never able to really make any impression during the race. Kazuki and Nico would finish in twelfth and fourteenth. But Nico's result was not through any mistake on his part, it was just one of those things.
Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Williams F1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 14:48
Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Francesc (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 14:54
Waiting for the boring comments of the team yet again
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: PABLO 27 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 14:55
Maybe the grip...bla,bla
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Francesc (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:04
Yeah, I just hope they will admit the mistake on strategy
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Umbrella_Girl (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:05
Disappointed? Yep. Obviously disappointed about the result after it looked so promising for so long.
But also disappointed that so many people are rushing to verbally stick the knives into the team, so much vitriol is being heaped onto them.
The team out there all undoubtedly work very very long hours and work very hard indeed. They all want success probably even more than we do. None of them f*cks up on purpose. None of them make a wrong strategy call on purpose. That fuel nozzle didn't stick, on purpose. Sh*t happens. None of the team WANT to be rubbish, none of them WANT the team to be 8th in the constructors table.
None of them deserve the outright abuse being heaped on them by some posters on here.
Supporters support - fans blow hot and cold...
But also disappointed that so many people are rushing to verbally stick the knives into the team, so much vitriol is being heaped onto them.
The team out there all undoubtedly work very very long hours and work very hard indeed. They all want success probably even more than we do. None of them f*cks up on purpose. None of them make a wrong strategy call on purpose. That fuel nozzle didn't stick, on purpose. Sh*t happens. None of the team WANT to be rubbish, none of them WANT the team to be 8th in the constructors table.
None of them deserve the outright abuse being heaped on them by some posters on here.
Supporters support - fans blow hot and cold...
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: boro1986willliamsf1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:07
Well said UG
100% Williams
WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS We HAVE A TEAM To Support
100% Williams
WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS We HAVE A TEAM To Support
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: PABLO 27 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:09
Yes UG is true...but I think that we can say if they make some silly mistakes...no one hates the team...is just too many frustrated races this year, but of course that everybody here loves the team
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: raiden (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:09
Huh? Other teams DONT make HARD WORK?
What other teams have THAT WILLIAMS DONT?
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WILLIAMS RACING
What other teams have THAT WILLIAMS DONT?
WILLIAMS RACING
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Oxford Girl (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:16
@ umbrella girl. Well said, couldn;t of put it better myself!!
My husband is flying home tonight, arrives back just after midnight, so you can imagine how and he and the team are going to be!!! And I am returning to work (RBS conference centre) after a few weeks off. Can't wait ot hear what is being said!!
My husband is flying home tonight, arrives back just after midnight, so you can imagine how and he and the team are going to be!!! And I am returning to work (RBS conference centre) after a few weeks off. Can't wait ot hear what is being said!!
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:30
All I can say is that I for one am disappointed for the team but it is not a case of feeling that the team is somehow worse at what they do simply because the results are not forthcoming. I always look back at the history of Ferari where they had to wait years and years before they ahgain achieved success.
I know that everyone at Williams is working hard at turning things around. I know it will happen but at the same time I am patient eonough to realise that it won't happen overnight. As for the comments from the team been boring ... what rubbish. What else do you expect them to say. They know in their own minds what went wrong, but do they have to tell the whole world.
I know that everyone at Williams is working hard at turning things around. I know it will happen but at the same time I am patient eonough to realise that it won't happen overnight. As for the comments from the team been boring ... what rubbish. What else do you expect them to say. They know in their own minds what went wrong, but do they have to tell the whole world.
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: raiden (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:33
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Umbrella_Girl (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 15:41
Quote:Andrew Hooper
All I can say is that I for one am disappointed for the team but it is not a case of feeling that the team is somehow worse at what they do simply because the results are not forthcoming. I always look back at the history of Ferari where they had to wait years and years before they ahgain achieved success.
I know that everyone at Williams is working hard at turning things around. I know it will happen but at the same time I am patient eonough to realise that it won't happen overnight. As for the comments from the team been boring ... what rubbish. What else do you expect them to say. They know in their own minds what went wrong, but do they have to tell the whole world.
Well said.
Supporters support - fans blow hot and cold...
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Damon'sFW18 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 16:12
I still think all this blood, sweat, tears, head banging and swearing will be worth it eventually. It's called 2009.
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Francesc (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 16:22
No mate, don't get you hopes to high, or the dissapointment will be bigger than this season, me I don't have too mnay hope, prefer to stay cautious
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Damon'sFW18 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 16:23
Quote:Yeah I suppose you're right, I think I blew it all by predicting Nico to win today.Francesc
No mate, don't get you hopes to high, or the dissapointment will be bigger than this season, me I don't have too mnay hope, prefer to stay cautious
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Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 16:43
I agree with the comments about been cautious about 2009 ...
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 16:50
Does anyone know if Williams pay out bonuses based on WCC finishing positions like some of the other teams do?
Williams and proud of it.
Williams and proud of it.
Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Darron (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 19:23
Looks like we'll need to dust down our No 16 and 17 caps for next year



Re: Disappointing 500th Grand Prix for Williams
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 14/09/2008 20:18
I think the resault was about their prediction of track conditions...I think they've been thinking of a very wet race.as long as it was very wet, Nico was running near to Mark but the more track dried out, they were dropping behind more.surely some of the adjusments can't be made during a pit stop.
the strategy was another wrong move IMO.I think always believe in changing weather conditions, going for a 1stopper will be too risky...anyway, their idea was something else and then the race was gone...

the strategy was another wrong move IMO.I think always believe in changing weather conditions, going for a 1stopper will be too risky...anyway, their idea was something else and then the race was gone...

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Kazuki would start the race from the pit lane along with Button. It is going
to be a race where anything can happen with Vettel on pole but several
drivers including Hamilton and Raikkonen starting from the rear of the grid.
The cars would move off from the grid with everyone on the full wet weather
tyre. By starting from the pit lane Kazuki would be able to change his car
hopefully allowing him to perform well in the wet conditions. Bourdais would not move off and was
pushed off the grid. Behind the Safety Car the first lap was run with huge
amounts of spray coming from the cars. The Safety Car would stay out for
another lap while Bourdais was still in the pit lane. He would get out and
was off trying to catch the pack.
Vettel would make his first stop on lap nineteen. His lead at the time was
just over eleven seconds prior to his stop. Hamilton would pass seventh
place Alonso going into the first chicane. Glock would pass Kubica for
ninth, after the BMW went across one of the chicanes. Kovalainen was now
leading by 5.5 seconds from Webber, Massa, Vettel, Nico, Trulli, Hamilton,
and Alonso. The current fastest lap was by Massa on lap twenty with a
1m:34.457. Raikkonen was down in twelfth while Kazuki was in fifteenth. Lap
twenty two and Hamilton would pass Trulli going into Turn one. He had made
an earlier attempt but had cut the first chicane and had to let Trulli back
past.
Hamilton was 1.1 seconds behind Vettel after lap twenty six. Lap twenty
eight and Hamilton would pit staying on the full wet tyre. He would come
back out in tenth. Nico had yet to make his first stop but would do so on
the next lap. Ninth placed Coulthard would also stop. He would have a
problem with the fuel hose not coming away from the car losing a few
seconds. Coulthard was sent out on the intermediate wet tyre while lap
thirty would see Heidfeld pit from seventh. Coulthard would miss the first
chicane as Bourdais would make his first stop. Nico was down in fourteenth
while Kazuki had moved up to tenth. Lap thirty one and Alonso would pit from
fifth.
Lap thirty five and Kovalainen, Kubica, and Webber would all pit, all going
for the intermediates. Vettel was still leading from Hamilton by 35.2
seconds as on lap thirty six Raikkonen would pit. Trulli would also come in.
Massa had passed Webber and the Red Bull driver would spin his car at Ascari
but was able to continue. Vettel would pit on lap thirty seven. Hamilton was
also in along with Piquet. Hamilton had hoped for further rain but it did
not happen. His full wet tyres came off his car looking very second hand.
Massa was fastest with a 1m:33.601. Nico was now down in seventeenth and
Kazuki was in thirteenth. Hamilton had passed Webber going into the second
chicane. lap thirty eight and Hamilton was fastest with a 1m:32.869 but he
was in seventh some thirty seconds behind Vettel in the lead.
With nine laps left Vettel was leading by 13.4 seconds from Kovalainen. lap
forty four and Raikkonen was fastest with a 1m:32.733. He would improve on
that the next lap with a 1m:32.595. Hamilton was dropping away from Massa
and eighth placed Webber was closing in onto the McLaren. Nico was now
sixteenth. Webber was also pushing hard to challenge Hamilton. Raikkonen was
now in tenth as on lap forty six he was again fastest, 1m:31.691. Kazuki
remained in thirteenth ad Nico fifteenth. Raikkonen would pass Piquet going
into the first chicane. Webber was under pressure from Webber but Webber
would cut the first chicane after Hamilton made contact with the Red Bull.
Webber had to cut the first chicane waving his hand at Hamilton to show his
annoyance. One could say that it was poor driving on the part of Hamilton.
Webber would have to allow Hamilton back pass.