Williams Hybrid Power Launched
By Williams F1 Team
April 28 2008
Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: Williams F1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2008 15:21
Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Re: Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: Gunk (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2008 16:31
Another indication of the resources already going into '09.
Some estimates say that 20 million will go into developing KERS. Which may be OK for manufacturers who get road car spinoff, but personally I don't this burden should be on independent, low budget F1 teams.
As I understand it, the horsepower available will be restricted, so not even a competitive advantage will be gained.
Some estimates say that 20 million will go into developing KERS. Which may be OK for manufacturers who get road car spinoff, but personally I don't this burden should be on independent, low budget F1 teams.
As I understand it, the horsepower available will be restricted, so not even a competitive advantage will be gained.
Re: Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2008 19:27
...and we are supposed to be seeing F1 costs being reduced!
Williams and proud of it.
Williams and proud of it.
Re: Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: Gunk (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2008 22:41
Quote:pgj
...and we are supposed to be seeing F1 costs being reduced!
It's another Max' legacy baby.
There's a duplicate thread on this. I do think it is very savvy of Williams to set up another company so that at least they can sell on the technology developed - which maybe no use at all to F1. Really bright thinking.
I've tried to get my head around the math of this stuff but it is very fuzzy. Batteries, high tension wires, electric motors, flywheels . . none of which you can attach to an engine 'cause they're frozen. Then regulating the output in Kw per BHP to an FIA norm . . . the mind boggles.
So yes . . wonderful techno fascination that only money can solve.
You can just imagine Massa being given a 10 place grid penalty for an 'inductor coil resistor infringement'.
Max is loony tunes, end of story.
Re: Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: Mehryar (IP Logged)
Date: 28/04/2008 23:04
I have problems with this Tech too...I was wondering how it should improve racing when the usage of the energy is limited per lap or during the whole race and as long as overtaking chances are limited around a circuit, the usage of it will be the same for both cars who are racing with each other.
There can be exceptions but I think they are focusing and spending alot on what they gain, atleast about its effect on racing.

There can be exceptions but I think they are focusing and spending alot on what they gain, atleast about its effect on racing.

Re: Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: Gunk (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2008 00:59
Quote:Mehryar
I have problems with this Tech too...I was wondering how it should improve racing when the usage of the energy is limited per lap or during the whole race and as long as overtaking chances are limited around a circuit, the usage of it will be the same for both cars who are racing with each other.
It isn't just you :-)
The way it has been explained is, 'push button to overtake'. But yes, the guy you are overtaking has this button too . . . but maybe he will use his recovered energy on the next straight while your AA batteries are recharging . .
Turbos and superchargers - similar recycling power principle - never made a whole heap of difference once everyone had them. They just cost a fortune in blown engines.
Re: Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2008 01:13
I have no qualms over this- the fact that the team can and does find its own solution (in the sense they own part of the company now) is great. No sloppy seconds here. Let's hope they develop a very effective system that can give us an edge next year.
Re: Williams Hybrid Power Launched
Posted by: Greenmachine (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2008 02:02
I really like the idea of the flywheel. I'm glad that Williams seem to be the only ones with the idea.
Not for overtaking, but imagine spinning that thing up under braking, and engaging it for a @#$%&-tonne of torque for accelerating out of the corner only to spin it back up at the entrance of the next corner. You could even save up the spinning mass because you naturally have to brake longer from faster speeds, but some front straights have short straights after the first corner, so you might still have some energy left before you have to brake again, making the acceleration out of the corner after that even faster because you have even more reciprocating mass.
Come to think of it, you could trick the other driver into out-braking themselves a tad and squirting past them after the apex.
Not for overtaking, but imagine spinning that thing up under braking, and engaging it for a @#$%&-tonne of torque for accelerating out of the corner only to spin it back up at the entrance of the next corner. You could even save up the spinning mass because you naturally have to brake longer from faster speeds, but some front straights have short straights after the first corner, so you might still have some energy left before you have to brake again, making the acceleration out of the corner after that even faster because you have even more reciprocating mass.
Come to think of it, you could trick the other driver into out-braking themselves a tad and squirting past them after the apex.
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