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Canada next
Posted by: CLOVERLEAF 888 (IP Logged)
Date: 31 May, 2019 09:43

So we are off to Canada next. Be a good chance to see if we have made progress as we are back to a more traditional circuit. My worry though is Canada has some long straights and I think we struggle for straight-line speed and traction out of the hairpin could hamper us down to the chicane

Re: Canada next
Posted by: Gunk (IP Logged)
Date: 31 May, 2019 15:58

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So we are off to Canada next. Be a good chance to see if we have made progress as we are back to a more traditional circuit. My worry though is Canada has some long straights and I think we struggle for straight-line speed and traction out of the hairpin could hamper us down to the chicane

Haven't really looked at straightline speed traps. True, it was a big advantage for us at Canada with the 2014 - 17 car.

Autosport has charted our gaps to 15th place to date and the improvement at Barcelona was massive. Down to 0.8. It's probably better than measuring the gap to Stroll, who could equally be going backwards. Then again, I read that RP will soon have an almost completely new car, not just an upgrade.

Encouraging at Monaco was that the team improved the car considerably over the weekend. I understand the race team is little changed from last year and appears a reasonably happy ship. The race notes were very upbeat.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: CLOVERLEAF 888 (IP Logged)
Date: 31 May, 2019 20:14

oh that interesting about the gaps according to Autosport Gunk

You do have to wonder if this car was actually many months behind schedule rather than weeks.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: Mikef1 (IP Logged)
Date: 01 June, 2019 13:11

Canada will be a different sort of challenge. Big straight combined with high brake and tyre deg. Certainly the team has proved that getting on top of the current car and understanding it better is bringing plenty of performance. Drag however is drag and the cars haven't been great down the straights.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: tomazy (IP Logged)
Date: 01 June, 2019 22:40

I am expecting that cool wing that's never been raced to be raced in Canada, but I did expect to make its debut in Azerbejdzan and it didnt happen.

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They have that cool wing that's never been raced.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: Mikef1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2019 12:39

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I am expecting that cool wing that's never been raced to be raced in Canada, but I did expect to make its debut in Azerbejdzan and it didnt happen.
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They have that cool wing that's never been raced.

I too am hoping to see that cool wing which has never been raced and maybe if the racing gods are good a reduced rear wing. If the pipeline is clear then a medium downforce spec shouldn't be out of the equation for the team with spa coming up too

Re: Canada next
Posted by: Gunk (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2019 19:51

Runners and riders up to Canada

2019 Constructors' Championship

Standings following the Grand Prix de Monaco

P Team Points
1 Mercedes 257
2 Ferrari 139
3 Red Bull 110
4 McLaren 30
5 Racing Point 17
6 Toro Rosso 16
7 Haas 16
8 Renault 14
9 Alfa Romeo 13

According to Claire, Williams is closing the gap to Alfa. Alfa isn't really starting this season where it left off. However, Charles is missing and I understand Ferrari is recalling some people it lent to Alfa last year, due to the 'troubles in paradise'.

The pecking order to date is perhaps largely influenced by driving strength, with the exception of Renault which has consistently underperformed, and Racing Point, whose upgrade is delayed.

2019 Drivers' Championship

Standings following the Grand Prix de Monaco


P Driver
1 Hamilton 137
2 Bottas 120
3 Vettel 82
4 Verstappen 78
5 Leclerc 57
6 Gasly 32
7 Sainz 18
8 Magnussen 14
9 Perez 13
10 Raikkonen 13
11 Norris 12
12 Kvyat 9
13 Ricciardo 8
14 Albon 7
15 Hulkenberg 6
16 Stroll 4
17 Grosjean 2

Is Gasly the new Vandoorne? I even saw a rumour that RBR were considering Hulk as a replacement, given his speed against RIC.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: SydneyF1Fan (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2019 00:14

Gasly definately disappointing in the RBR this season, but I think they would swap with Albon before trying to bust contracts with Renault and Nico.

Nico definitely giving Ric a hard time, but not enough to warrant a team change, especially as Dan starting to get more comfortable with the car and Renault starting to bring improvements online.



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Re: Canada next
Posted by: CLOVERLEAF 888 (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2019 02:45

Thanks for the updates on constructors and championship Gunk. I must admit with Williams woes I hadn't paid much attention. I'm surprised Alfa are were they are.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: dot_com (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2019 11:35

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Thanks for the updates on constructors and championship Gunk. I must admit with Williams woes I hadn't paid much attention. I'm surprised Alfa are were they are.

Me too! I hadn’t paid any attention to the constructors this year. I’m surprised to see McLaren up there as best of the rest, and it is way too close to call between the next five teams. Sadly, the gap between the top three and “everyone else” has never looked so huge.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: The Terminator (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2019 18:13

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Thanks for the updates on constructors and championship Gunk. I must admit with Williams woes I hadn't paid much attention. I'm surprised Alfa are were they are.

Me too! I hadn’t paid any attention to the constructors this year. I’m surprised to see McLaren up there as best of the rest, and it is way too close to call between the next five teams. Sadly, the gap between the top three and “everyone else” has never looked so huge.

The gap from Mercedes to the next team is not too shabby either.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2019 20:12

Even with a smaller gap to Alfa the chances of points are still small.

If I were a betting man I'd say we'll finish with zero WCC points. Why be optimistic now, after 18 months of going backwards?

Re: Canada next
Posted by: CLOVERLEAF 888 (IP Logged)
Date: 04 June, 2019 09:25

So it's been confirmed. Some updates to be tested in Fp1 by George and Nicholas who has a run in his home country.



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Re: Canada next
Posted by: Gunk (IP Logged)
Date: 04 June, 2019 11:51

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I'm surprised to see McLaren up there as best of the rest . . .

James Key is there now, Pat Fry has returned and Promodrou didn't leave . . . they have some top people. Key also insists the Renault is much improved . . . as long as it holds together.

Sainz and Norris are a handy pair too. Sainz always goes well at Monaco. Four years in the points in three different cars. Once he gets settled in one team I think he will be quite strong.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: CLOVERLEAF 888 (IP Logged)
Date: 04 June, 2019 15:07

Sorry double post



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Re: Canada next
Posted by: Mikef1 (IP Logged)
Date: 04 June, 2019 21:30

If there is a track for Kubica to finally stick it to Russell it's this one. Much like Hamilton he always found a few extra tenths around here. It's one if the few real specialists circuits on the current calendar

Re: Canada next
Posted by: Anderis (IP Logged)
Date: 04 June, 2019 21:56

I don't know, Kubica only raced 3 times there and in 2007 he was soundly outpaced by Heidfeld. Petrov in 2010 was not really a benchmark and Kubica's final position was where he was expected to finish on a normal circuit with this car. So there's not a lot of data to say if he was that good around that circuit.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: phatjack (IP Logged)
Date: 04 June, 2019 23:04

Hope in a teachable moment GR kisses the Wall of Champions. He might understand what it means to almost lose your life on a track.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: SehnKhan (IP Logged)
Date: 05 June, 2019 09:26

Latifi to contest FP1 in place of Robert.

Re: Canada next
Posted by: dot_com (IP Logged)
Date: 05 June, 2019 20:12

I’m actually really interested to see what Latifi can do. I know that FP1 doesn’t really give us a good idea in terms of lap times, but I do wonder if Williams are tentatively evaluating options in case Kubica doesn’t last the year, for whatever reason...?

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